Empowering Tellico Village 6 & 7
BREAKING NEWS EMPOWERING TELLICO VILLAGE June 2, 2025 #7 - NEWS UPDATE Our Mission....To communicate critical village news in a fair, clear, truthful and concise manner of key issues that impact YOU.Publisher: Mark Werner
OH, MY GOODNESS!!!!!! An emergency meeting was held on Friday last week to discuss the sewer and water debacle, and a DEBACLE IT IS!!! Jeff B. just posted the results of that meeting on ND. I’m going to give you a bit more here without overwhelming anyone. There are a lot of things to understand, so I will do my best.
Friday, May 30th meeting:
Two representatives from Jacobs Engineering were present at the meeting, as were POA board members Steve Schneider, Ed Grollemond, Joel Reed, Mike Lackey (via Zoom from CA), and Matt Benoit (interim TV General Manager). Two PSAC members, Scott McCrea TV Project Manager and Gary Zika (concerned TV resident Sewer and Water Expert), also attended. Seems like all the stakeholders were present.
Major points:
1. Why
did the Jacobs's plan include a 750,000-gallon backup waste tank? TURNS
OUT, THEY WERE DIRECTED TO DESIGN A STAND-ALONE PLAN by the POA board
and PSAC. Who made this decision for a standalone system? Certainly not
the OWNERS, the residents…US! It was never passed by the residents.
When was that decision made and by whom? Anyway, Jacobs were told to
disregard any LUB improvements or input. Although not a waste issue but
a water issue that explains why the large tank and pump station on Watt
Cemetery Road was not included. The fresh water tank and lift station
that we paid for and LUB installed for TV.
2. Jacobs
was also directed to ignore Tellico Village's INFILTRATION & INFLOW
problem with our resident tanks in our backyards. I suspect they
concluded this issue could not be resolved without major financial
resources and therefore ignored. A target cost of $40M was communicated
by one of the Legacy board members. This cost “guess” of course is
absolutely ridiculous. It was further confirmed by Chet Pilsbury at a
POA meeting in 2024. Someone made this decision despite Jacobs telling
us in their October 2021 report that I&I was a major issue.
3. Mr.
Reed and Mr. Zika came to the meeting prepared with minute-by-minute
data from LUB showing flow rates for Tellico Village. This data proved
that Jacobs had erred in the dry flow calculation (the average flow vs.
peak flow). They also confirmed that LUB meters (turns flow on and off
to their system) waste flows from Tellico Village and other surrounding
areas to ensure their treatment system has the capacity to handle it.
These two critical items play a very large role in whether or not
Tellico Village or the LUB system would have a spill. Removing any
capacity in either system would create conditions that would lead to a
spill.
4. So,
what did Jacobs do…they designed a lift station with a 40% reduction ion
our wet well capacity. That’s huge! Here is the problem with that. In
the morning when everyone is getting ready for their day, we are at our
normal peak morning flows. At this time our existing wet well gives us
over 22 minutes of flexible storage. This new Jacobs design with a 40%
reduction in the size of the wet well gives us only 11 minutes of
storage. With this new wet well, if LUB restricts our flow for over 10
minutes, the new wet well will overflow.
5. The
same reasoning as above, a normal morning peak flow, but now we have a
rain event at the same time. The present wet well gives us 11 minutes of
storage. Jacobs new wet well design will give us less than 5 minutes of
storage.
6. Further,
the plan for this lift station is in the same location as the now
eliminated POOP Tank. Their plan required that the land around it be
cleared. This means all the trees would be removed. It also removed the
current berm intended to protect the lake against any spill. Instead, it
included a catch basin for the purpose of collecting the rain water and
funneling it into the lake. The surrounding land would be graded towards
this catch basin. So, if a spill did occur (and with a 40% smaller wet
well there was certainly a greater risk for one) it would be caught in
this basin already full of rainwater. The likelihood of spilling sewage
into the lake is increased. GREAT PLAN!
7. Even
so, Jacobs moved ahead and sent these faulty design plans to 4
contractors for bid. However, only one of the four contractors ended up
bidding on it. Why? Was it the last-minute corrections to add a bypass
pumping configuration or the unprofessional "white out" changes to the
contract? Whatever the reason, the single bid that was received was 240%
higher than the Jacobs estimate. That’s $5 million more than the
original estimate. If I were to see these bid documents, I would do
everything in my power to ensure that there is more than enough
discretionary money included in the proposal to protect my company.
Maybe that’s why it was 240% higher than Jacobs estimate. And why only
one contractor bid.
8. If
Jacobs would have continued and contracted with this supplier, we would
have paid for a plan that simply doesn’t work. The new design with 40%
less capacity, means we would have a greater risk of a spill. 9. Proof of all of this was given by Gary Zika, who was the only one present who had Jacobs lift station drawings and time to study them…. PSAC had not EVEN seen the drawings.
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN…
I have had lots of exposure and
experience to RFQ (Request for Quote) documents and supplier contracts
in my career. As a supplier representative for 31 years, I know that the
very first rule of this process is to not tell the supplier how to do
it. NEVER! INSTEAD, tell them what the problem is. This project was
designed for failure from the very beginning, and I think that was
because someone decided they knew better than the suppliers. Who in the
POA and PSAC was so arrogant, so pompous, so hubris that they thought
they knew more than an experienced supplier? These suppliers have far
more experience than you do. They know their processes and tools much
better than you do. AND they have the latest information, technical
knowledge, skill and on hand experience than you do. This project was
doomed from the start! Garbage in garbage out.
OR
Someone wanted to have a standalone system. One we would have to
maintain for its life. A system that would remove our supplier LUB from
the equation. A system that would not be eligible for any state money.
Its only funding source your pocket book! Who wanted this solution? Who
made this decision regarding our largest asset without resident input?
Without a second opinion, TV POA
and PSAC had no way to know if this plan would work or fail!
Additionally, there were no competitive bids, so there was no way to
know if Jacobs's quote and plan were at a fair price. I don't even buy a
used $10,000 car without competitive prices, and yet, we were ready to
spend $36,000,000 with the potential to increase without a competitive
plan or price. Then the LEGACY Board and 2 others now gone, decided to pass a fee to pay for this garbage. Imagine if they came to the residents with this proposal for an assessment as our C&Rs require. Well, on that they were right. WE WOULD NOT HAVE APPROVED A SINGLE SOURCE SOLUTION. So, they asked our lawyer if they could use the FEE process, thereby, bypassing the TV residents. They also knew the residents would most likely push back on a FEE process and demand an Assessment. So, they went and got a second legal opinion, then had our lawyer pen a letter to us all saying it’s all legal and the second opinion confirms it. SO, MOVE ON!
ARE YOU ANGRY YET! YOU SHOULD BE!
I think the solution to our sewer and water problems is fairly clear. · Implement TAP 2.0. NOW! End the contract with Jacobs, send them home, and refuse to give them any more money. · We've already lost at least $500,000 on a tank that won't be built. That's a sunk cost, and it's water under the bridge. · Disband the current PSAC and appoint a new one with Gary Zika as its head. · Partner immediately with our sewer and water suppliers, LUB and TASS. · Support the LUB plan to install another 12-inch line under the Tennessee River.
· Here
are a few ways to fund the new pipeline. o Our general fund has over $34 million in it. We can pay for it ourselves. o We can try to redirect the $2.1 million grant from TDEC, which we were going to use to pay for the tank that won't be built. o We could have LUB charge us an extra 20 cents a month for the next 30 years. o We could use any combination of the above.
So, there you have it. Let's get on with it, folks.
Just one other point. It’s time to stop the $80 fee. The original TAP
plan is more confused now than ever. We have no idea of the cost. We
don’t even know what’s in it at this point.
Mike and Gary have estimated that
pump upgrades and a few other improvements to solve our problems will
cost about $10m, a far cry from the $36,000,000 the POA board is trying
to collect from us. We have at least 2 votes to stop it right now. Maybe
John Orr will come along as well. His reasons for voting "NO" last July
are still in play, even more so now... that leaves one more vote needed.
I asked Marty Inkrott at the last POA meeting, and he decided to stay
with the legacy board... he even thought my asking the question was
badgering him. Well, Marty, your plan is falling apart. Isn’t it time
you stepped up?
BREAKING NEWS EMPOWERING TELLICO VILLAGE
RESPONSE TO RECENT TELEGRAM
Our Mission....To communicate critical village news in a fair, clear, truthful and concise manner of key issues that impact YOU.
Publisher: Mark Werner A Response to the Recent Telegram….
I have reviewed the Telegram publication that tries to refute the EMPOWERING TELLICO VILLAGE NEWSLETTER. From the Telegram I presented to Mr. Gary Zika a list of questions… Gary is not subject to an NDA like the board members. So, he is free to share what was discussed. Gary takes incredible notes. He has more than 3 binders filled with information he has collected over the last 16 months relative to our Sewer and Water system. I believe he and Mr. Lackey is the most knowledgeable individual in the village on our system. Certainly, no one on the board or on PSAC has this level experience or knowledge.
Statements from the Telegram (source unknown)
FROM the Telegram…. The design of the Main Pumping Station provided by Jacobs Engineering is sound and defendable.
FROM Mr. Zika…The design of the Main Lift Station has two major flaws size of the wet well and size of the pumps.
1. The wet well in this new
lift station design is significantly smaller,
40% smaller capacity than what we have now. This
will increase the risk of overflows. The current
larger wet well gives us 22 minutes of flexible
storage when LUB is shutting us down because
their pumps are working. This new design gives
us only 10 minutes of flexible storage.
2. Why does LUB shut us down?
It’s a capacity issue. Mr. Reed and Mr. Zika
came to this meeting with LUB flow data that
shows LUB is metering peak morning flows into
their
sewer system.
They do this by shutting off flow from Tellico
Village, to allow flow
from the
surrounding areas. Then they shut
off the
surrounding areas flow, to allow
flow from Tellico Village. The data showed that
TV was shut off during high flow events,
mornings and rain events numerous times some
shut offs up to 14 minutes long.
3. The new station pumps in
this design are 1,500 GPM pumps. LUB can’t take
1,500
GPM
flow from Tellico Village. The pumps in this new
station are too big. Jacobs
stated
they
can be controlled
by the new system to a to
a lower 1,100 GPM. 4. Why didn’t Jacobs just design a larger wet well and use smaller pumps? The pumps are actually too small for our peak flows with a wet weather event. Jacobs acknowledge that the amount of flow, but did not take into account both normal peak flows at build out and wet weather events. Both of these items, the pumps and the wet well were acknowledged in the meeting. The wet well could be designed to a larger capacity and still be in compliance with all codes and regulations. LUB is working on a plan to accept the higher flow rates from Village and if the POA reduces the I&I the 1,500 GPM would work in the future.
FROM the Telegram…The proposed Main Pumping Station is engineered to perform its intended function without the need for a separate holding tank
FROM Mr. Zika
1. This
Main Pumping Station is a component of a system,
that includes a second lift station and a
storage tank. If the tank is removed and the wet
well reduced in size the lift station bid design
will have a higher risk of overflows.
2. Despite the comment in the Telegram mentioned above “the original system will not function without the need for a separate holding tank. One legacy board member commented in the meeting, “the future storage tank would be down the road 3 to 5 miles”. OK, IN WHO’S BACKYARD!
3. This
newly designed lift station was bid, at
$5,000,000 over Jacobs estimate of $3.1M. This
“overbid” by the only bidder, is a big red flag.
It tells me the supplier is saying, “I REALLY
DON’T WANT THIS JOB, BUT WE WILL BID IT BECAUSE
JACOBS IS ASKING …. OR…they are saying this
design is complicated and the drawings
ambiguous. They indeed are with a deleted second
lift station and storage tank and other parts
“whited out”. That makes it difficult to
understand and infers Jacobs is not sure it will
work. Payments for rework are always a contested
issue (my experience). This most likely led to
this supplier’s extremely high quote.
4. WE
DO NOT need an
$5,000,000
storage tank, even the recent Telegram said
it. We certainly don’t need a $8,600,000
brand-new lift station, both total an estimated
cost of over
$13,600,000.
5. Reworking
the
current main lift station installing
variable speed controls, new piping and meters
as per TAP 2.0 will be more than adequate and
its only about $3m in cost.
6. All regulations and system
requirements can be met with the above
modifications, for ~$3.1m. 7. Then why in the world did the original design include a 750,000-gal $5,000,000 storage tank and a brand-new lift station now quoted at about $8,600,000 a combined cost of ~$13,600,000? They are NOT NEEDED!!!
FROM the Telegram…Has TDEC reviewed and approved the design drawings, including all associated calculations?
FROM Mr. Zika
TDEC does not approve drawings for functionality. The TDEC requirement is that the submitted drawings need only be signed and sealed by an engineer. TDEC assumes the engineer has done all the research for the project and therefore ensures its functionality (that it will work). The engineer who signs and seals the drawings has the ALL liability for the work and its functionality. So simply because TDEC approved the drawings adds no assurance that the design will indeed work.
The root cause of the problem of our lift stations overflowing during rain events is inflow and infiltration (I&I) stated numerous times by Mr. Zika and shared numerous times with the LEGACY BOARD and PSAC. JACOBS identified it in their December 14, 2021 report that I&I is the cause of capacity issues with the sewer system. So why did we not begin working on I&I in 2022? Because Jacobs was told by the POA, that I&I could not be fixed, and to allow for it in their design.
Mr. Zika goes on saying….
1. We must continue to work to reduce the I&I.
2. We must work with LUB to
increase the capacity of their system to accept
amounts greater than the 1,100 GPM.
3. I advised to the board over
a year ago, it’s time to cancel all work with
Jacobs and obtain new engineers to work on TV
problems. TV does not need high
priced Jacobs designs
to fix the normal maintenance
type issues here in TV. 4. Finally, the POA needs to stop issuing instructions to the engineers. Two major instructions in the past have been one that POA cannot fix the I&I and two that nothing can be done to improve the capacity of LUB in receiving greater amounts of sewage. TV does not live in a silo in regards to water supply and sewerage treatment. TV relies on both TASS and LUB to supply fresh water and to treat our sewage. Both TASS and LUB are our partners and very qualified to help solve our problems.
So, I guess it comes down to who you trust Mr. Gary Zika or the LEGACY Board.
The Legacy board will
undoubtedly try to discredit Mr. Zika’s account
of this meeting. The information was supposed to
remain private (secret). This meeting waqs
closed to the Tellico Village residents. Mr.
Reed and Mr. Lackey have signed an NDA so they
are not permitted to openly speak of this
meeting. So, any information released (via the
Telegram, legal letters, special Memos, etc.) to
the residents can be cleansed and SPUN by the
Legacy Board to support their agenda, narrative,
plans or actions to date. Fortunately for the residents and unfortunately for the Legacy Board, Mr. Zika has not signed an NDA. OPPS! So, he is free to talk about the meeting. My guess is if Mr. Reed and Lackey could speak openly, they would support all that Mr. Zika has said in this Newsletter. All of this can be solved by having open meetings. Then we (residents) could have attended and we would have been able to decided for ourselves. But the board makes the rules! We are not governed by any “Sunshine Rules”. These meetings should be open to the public. They are not employee related. This is information we need to know. The board could open them up, but they don’t. So what is the Legacy Board hiding? So who do you trust a Legacy Board that continually has closed (secret) meetings. So we can't hear the discussion and make up pour opwn minds. or a rfesident who haas "skin in the game", takes his own time to investigate and has the resume to prove his excellence in this industry......
From this publisher’s (Mark Werner) notes….
The “delays” in this project mentioned in the Telegram that effect the grant are the responsibility PSAC and the LEGACY board. They moved forward on a plan that does not meet the stated objectives (reference videos still on web site). They are not caused by the board’s concern to meet the concerns of the residents. That made me chuckle!
THIS HAS BEEN STATED NUMEROUS TIMES by this Newsletter and board Member Mike Lackey and Gary Zika. IT HAS BEEN VERIFIED BY LUB…. FACT… LUB is working right now to install an additional main line across Watts Bar (Tennessee River) as per their consent decree. They have asked their engineering supplier to provide drawings and they are currently working on funding. The target date is 2027. This would alleviate all flow and capacity issues even if we do not solve the I&I. In addition, the I&I into our backyard tanks costs us over $100K per year to treat AND it’s rain water! |
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